Every Thursday, Howie Klein of Down with Tyranny and the Blue America PAC joins Nicole Sandler to talk politics. Today, less than five weeks from election day, they discuss what a wave election means and how the Trump factor will influence what happens.

At the top of the show, The Nation’s John Nichols joins in to give us the latest on the Kavanaugh confirmation, and tell us about his upcoming cover story, “Catching the Blue Wave”. He also wrote today about how Mitch McConnell is killing the senate. We talked about all of it…